Thursday, February 02, 2006

Ice cold or fiery, hell?

Climate change. Who to believe? For decades we've been hearing about global warming and how human activities are causing a build up of greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere, leading to higher average temperatures, melting of the ice caps, desertification, and other calamities. This year Ottawa (the world's 7th coldest national capital) has even expressed concerns that its Winterlude festival will be marred by the unseasonably warm weather. The Rideau Canal may not be skateable, and the ice sculpture exhibits would vanish before anyone even gets a chance to comment on how labour-intensive yet pointless they are. Ottawa would lose yet another claim to fame in its pathetic attempt to remind the world that it is the capital of Canada, and not Toronto, the Big Smoke as they refer to it, whom they probably blame for this global warming thing.

Lately, I've been seeing more and more scientific claims that suggest a trend of global icing rather than global warming though. Many cite that we are overdue for another ice age, while others add that pumping CO2 into the atmosphere is actually beneficial and keeping the next ice age at bay. One supposed environmentalist even went as far as to say that we should burn even more fossil fuels, and quickly deplete the world's supply because that would really force industry to come up with more environmentally friendly alternatives. Nothing drives innovation like desperate necessity. Hmm, why do I get the sense that his paycheques are stamped by some major oil conglomerate? That aside, there are credible scientific sources that believe global cooling is occurring. The journal of Nature reports that British researchers have detected a weakening of key currents in the North Atlantic, responsible for bringing cold arctic waters south and warm waters north. Slowed by as much as 30% in the last decade, this could cause progressively colder winters for Canada and Europe. So, are we destined for an ice cold hell or a fiery one?

It's funny how both extreme camps of "scientists" often fail to mention that we really don't know jack. At best, our data shows but one century of the earth's 4.6 billion-year existance. How can we make such drastic predictions of where the planet is heading next with any certainty? We can't. And rest assured, the Earth will persevere no matter what we do to it, but whether we'll be around for the next phase of its existance is a matter of us behaving ourselves or not (read up on the Gaia theory). The Earth's current state is ideal for us, but throughout its history that has mostly not been the case. Should we not do our best to keep the status quo so as to avoid a major paradigm shift (buzzword of the day)?

Regardless of the theory you prescribe to, which scenario would you prefer? I find an ice age much more attractive than a desert world. I think we're better at finding ways to heat ourselves, than we are at finding drinking water in arid places. You must also understand that even in an extreme ice age, the tropics would be relatively pleasant. Plus history has shown that nothing speeds-up human innovation like an ice age. It's one of those things that if it doesn't kill us (and it never has), only makes us stronger. As for polluting the atmosphere further in an effort to slow down an oncoming ice age...I give that idea a stiff 2 finger salute!

Aside: Too often I hear people cite ozone depletion as the cause of global warming. This of course is not the case. Ozone depletion is caused by the release of CFC's (aerosols) which eat away at the ozone layer, causing the polar "ozone holes". This does not cause global warming, but rather allows for deadly solar rays to reach us and give us skin cancers, instead of bouncing off into space harmlessly. Global warming on the other hand is caused by the release of CO2 and other greenhouse gases, which when they accumulate in great amounts, prevent heat from escaping from the planet. They form an atmospheric blanket around earth, causing the planet to get hotter and hotter. Venus is the perfect example of the runaway greenhouse effect. Mars on the other hand got stuck in an ice age. So far, our Earth is a happy medium. Also, if ozone (O3) is created by our factories and when released near the surface, is considered pollution, how come no one has found a way to shove it up where it can be beneficial to us and plug up the ozone holes? Just wondering.

Update: It seems ozone depletion is not the only culprit in the apparent increase of skin and other cancer cases. The Earth's magnetic field has weakened by as much as 6% in the last century. This magnetic field is what shields us from the onslought of deadly cosmic rays that would normally tear our bodies apart if they weren't mostly deflected out into space by the shield. Obviously other factors play a role in cancer prevalence as well...people living longer, greater daily exposure to chemicals, etc.

21 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well I'm hesitant to write my comment as I don't think your ego needs any more boosting, but it is your blog so I'm submitting ...
I'm impressed by your awareness of the difference between global warming and ozone depletion but I suppose being in the Environmental field, it should be expected ;) And you're obviously correct in saying an icy home is better than a desert one ... water is one of the most important factors in sustaining life ... it is one of the few things we actually "need", the rest we can acquire or do without.
(don't jump down my throat on this one, it was written quickly and with very little thought)

6:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"At best, our data shows but one century of the earth's 4.6 billion-year existence. How can we make such drastic predictions of where the planet is heading next with any certainty?"

I'm not an environmentalist, but I propose that the Industrial revolution impacts these predictions significantly enough for errors to be only marginal!

Sure on the surface it seems a premature prognosis if you look at the time frame of data used in relation to the planets existence.
However, until the beginning of the industrial revolution, the earth was in as 'balanced' state as it could naturally be and therefore information pre-dating the I.R. cannot even be considered a factor in the evaluation process.

Over the last few centuries the presence and effects of these modern pollutants have been quantified and formulas created to form the basis of different hypothesis that highlight-to a pretty accurate extend- the atmospheric deterioration rates expected over the short and long term. Global observation, education and pro-active solutions may shift the factors affecting these patterns at any time of course!

So ultimately you are right in that it is just an uncertain theory and only time will actually tell!

11:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oops,I mean't to type ...
"so ultimately you MAY be right in that it is just an uncertain theory and only time will actually tell!"

:)

11:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3 words: Big pipe theory

1:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please expand on this 'Big Pipe Theory'.

1:49 PM  
Blogger Desiderius1979 said...

Yes anonymous, please elaborate on your "big pipe theory". I've heard the term used in various fields from urban planning to transportation, but fail to see how any of those would relate to this particular post, so I assume you mean something else. Right now I'm picturing a giant smoke stack, or "pipe" that goes way up into the stratosphere, piping polluting ozone (O3)emissions where they are needed to regenerate the ozone layer...but that can't be it, so please fill us in.

6:33 PM  
Blogger Desiderius1979 said...

A few comments about what Passer-by had to say:

Re: "However, until the beginning of the industrial revolution, the earth was in as 'balanced' state as it could naturally be and therefore information pre-dating the I.R. cannot even be considered a factor in the evaluation process."

Oh, yes it can, and it should! You my friend are prescribing to the classic silo approach to data selection. You simply cannot isolate a small fraction of the data to make predictions on the whole, especially when there is so much conflicting information out there. It is also not good science to have a preconceived culprit in mind when collecting this data (e.g. the industrial revolution is the culprit...so let's go and find evidence to support this) No, it is perhaps the main suspect, but not guilty until all the facts are concidered. Who's to say that the earth isn't balanced right now, and that it wasn't planning to heat up or freeze gradually or suddenly, as part of its natural 4.6 billion-year-old cycle, with or without our interference?

Re: "...the presence and effects of these modern pollutants have been quantified and formulas created...that highlight-to a pretty accurate exten[t]- the atmospheric deterioration rates expected over the short and long term."

Oh really? We can't accurately predict tomorrow's weather, let alone what you're implying. You have too much confidence in what our scientists tell you they know or think they know. Even they will admit that their conclusions are based on the best data available, which isn't as great as you might think.

Re:"...pro-active solutions..."

Not a chance! Human's have always been reactive. We seek solutions only after the problem is big enough to really effect us. In our collective vocabulary "proactive solution" is a facial cleanser which may or may not prevent acne, and not something we apply to the environment.

The bottom line is, we know very little about our planet. We know more about the surface of the moon than we do about our oceans which make up 3 quarters of our planet and are the driving force of climate. As such we cannot conclude anything with confidence...we can only guess, and the guesses of scientists are as good as yours...and almost as good as mine.

10:51 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

”You simply cannot isolate a small fraction of the data to make predictions on the whole, especially when there is so much conflicting information out there.”

We have no other option than to consider only the modern evidence we have available. All ‘ancient’ evidence simply cannot be used in these cases because the entire context of the environment at those defined times is unknown and to consider such ‘scar-data’ in analysis with recently acquired information would produce equally misleading results as we are currently bombarded with! We have to isolate the data and keep factors in current context to produce trends/analysis that have any contemporary value. I understand that these predictions will then emerge from a statistic perspective because of the ‘silo’ approach, but to dismiss their worth completely would be negligible!

“It is also not good science to have a preconceived culprit in mind when collecting this data (e.g. the industrial revolution is the culprit...so let's go and find evidence to support this) No, it is perhaps the main suspect, but not guilty until all the facts are considered."

You are right not to preconceive a culprit… but when all investigated routes (umm, ‘roots’ :) are pointing to Rome, then Rome must be at least a little responsible right? The I.R. IS the main suspect for these rapid changes! Not looking for causes of these issues from a witch-hunt perspective, but rather, an acknowledging that this factor contributed SIGNIFICANTLY to the undesirable situations we’re now experiencing with the environment. So in this knowledge, let’s look at how we can prevent further damage to the environment by our technological advancements, while hopefully also taking into account all those other unconsidered facts that you didn’t specifically mention!

“Who's to say that the earth isn't balanced right now, and that it wasn't planning to heat up or freeze gradually or suddenly, as part of its natural 4.6 billion-year-old cycle, with or without our interference?”

Does the earth appear balanced to you? Are you suggesting that man’s developments have not acted as catalysts for pre-mature and possibly drastic climatic change? I understand that climates change as a natural phenomenon, but not when it occurs within such short time frames as has been the observation since man’s influence, (industrial revolution).

Re: "...the presence and effects of these modern pollutants have been quantified and formulas created...that highlight-to a pretty accurate exten[t]- the atmospheric deterioration rates expected over the short and long term." Oh really? We can't accurately predict tomorrow's weather, let alone what you're implying. You have too much confidence in what our scientists tell you they know or think they know. Even they will admit that their conclusions are based on the best data available, which isn't as great as you might think."

Yes and my comment in the same paragraph on variables that “… may shift the factors affecting these patterns at any time …” is in fact saying a similar thing that you deduce concerning scientific conclusions: “…their conclusions are based on the best data available…”

Re:"...pro-active solutions..."
Not a chance! Humans have always been reactive. We seek solutions only after the problem is big enough to really effect us. In our collective vocabulary "proactive solution" is a facial cleanser which may or may not prevent acne, and not something we apply to the environment.

BURRRN!!! OWCH on the proactive statement! But what should we do going-forward if not to address these issues pro-actively? Or is optimism a luxury for interns only in the Environmental department these days? 

"The bottom line is, we know very little about our planet. We know more about the surface of the moon than we do about our oceans which make up 3 quarters of our planet and are the driving force of climate. As such we cannot conclude anything with confidence...we can only guess, and the guesses of scientists are as good as yours...and almost as good as mine."

You’re not as brilliant as you think you are, offer a solution that may actually amount to something more substantial than your “consider all data” argument and critical approach of those trying to make sense of the mess - as we are experiencing it - and I’ll be impressed! You’re right that nothing is really conclusive on this matter so … what are we gonna debate next Desiderius my dear? … :P

2:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(Dear God I hope I have the last word on that one! lol)
:P

3:17 PM  
Blogger Desiderius1979 said...

Re: "But what should we do going-forward if not to address these issues pro-actively? Or is optimism a luxury for interns only in the Environmental department these days?"

No. Why should these issues be left solely to professionals and env. interns? Sure, they can propose ideas and guide the public, but ultimately it all starts with each and every one of us. Before you hound official departments expecting new magical solutions to everyday problems, how about implementing the old basic ones first, huh? They've been telling the public for decades to stop over-consuming and wasting so much. Stop buying SUV's, and take transit, or walk to work. Stop running your tap unnecessarily. Stop using aerosols. 3R's. The list is endless. When I see everyone doing this, and no SUV's on the street, then I'll join you in protest, asking for the propoer authorities to develop and suggest the next phase of environmental solutions for us to implement. I haven't seen that. We in this country are world leaders in wasteful and polluting behaviour, and it's getting worse.

Re: "You’re not as brilliant as you think you are, offer a solution that may actually amount to something more substantial..."

I don't claim to be brilliant. My comment was meant to criticize those who think that they are brilliant. There is no magical solution to this. A deteriorating environment is not an academic problem, but an everyday one...and everyday problems need everyday solutions...so start us off...tell me what you'll do today (that you didn't yesterday) to help ease the pressure on the environment even just a little?

3:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Two thumbs-up for that last posting and turning it practical again!

Ok then (unless it was a rhetorical question), I'm gonna turn the tap off while I'm brushing my teeth until I'm completely ready to rinse!

That's my conviction 'again' starting today! It's aweful how we become complacent when we're comfortable eh! When I lived in Zimbabwe, you'd never find me running the tap unnecessarily for any reason - drought has a way of making you conscious of how fragile our lifesyles really can be!

Thanks for this debate and points well taken!
:)

4:07 PM  
Blogger Desiderius1979 said...

It was not a rhetorical question at all...I wanna hear people's ideas. Thanks for answering. It's a good start.

As for me...I'v esigned up for electronic paystubs, and I'll do my taxes on-line. No unnecessary paper copies and envelopes. And, I'll start jogging daily along Yonge street in rush-hour, sucking up exhaust fumes into my own lungs, making the air cleaner for all of you. Although I will exhale CO2, whcih is a greenhouse gas...hmmm...so maybe not.

4:44 PM  
Blogger Desiderius1979 said...

By my spelling above, I'm sure you can tell I've already given the yonge-street-exhaust-fumes-jog idea a try...woooaaahhh, the fumes are making me dizzzzzyyyy

4:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You want ideas? Here are some:

When you can't walk, take the TTC; but not the buses just the subway and the streetcars. The emissions of a bus are far greater than a car. Yes, more people use a bus but not always. There are too many empty buses running counteracting the positive aspects of them. It is better to carpool at late hours or in small towns than it is to take a bus. Hopefully an enivormentally friendly public transportation option will be implemented in the future when our politicians deem it worthy of the money.

Make your home energy efficient. Use ee light bulbs; front loading washing machine; low water level toilets; there is a heating and cooling system (the name escapes me at the moment) that uses the natural chemical composition of air to keep the temperature comfortable; use solar powered everything; open your windows in the summer; wear more clothes in the winter; have plants (green roof?) and help replenish our air; shall I go on?

Some of these suggestions involve major changes and may initially cost more. However, it is a fact that over 10 years, you will not only save money but reduce the strain on our environment in multiple ways. Imagine if we all did it!

No, I do not do all of these things myself, not yet at least. But I'm learning and planning and will definitely practice what I preach when it is feasible for me. For now I try to waste as little as possible. I try to reduce, then reuse, then recycle ... from food (some things that "spoil" can be re-prepared to be good for you or for the animals) right down to toys I've owned since I was 8.

Is that good enough for you Desiderius?

5:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Okay so in my haste I repeated some of your suggestions but I was more specific.

And a heat pump is what I was referring to before but a fan/heat exhanger is also quite good. Let me explain:

Heat Pump - A fridge, freezer and air conditioner all work on the same principle. When a liquid expands into a gas, it is going into a higher energy state. To get there, it absorbs heat. When you compress it back to a liquid, energy is give off. A heat pump (like the other devices mentioned) works the same way. The only difference is that a heat pump is reversible.

Heat Exchanger - A house needs fresh air. The fresh air coming in is cold. To allow the fresh air in, some of the warm inside air has to be let out. A heat exchanger extracts the heat from the air leaving the house to warm the air coming into the house. A simple fan keeps this happening in a controlled manner.

Okay, seriously have to get to work now.

5:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good tips Sonja, thanks for the info!

7:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No problem passer-by! I can be a little over-zealous when it comes to environmental issues so I'm glad you're weren't freaked out ;)

3:03 PM  
Blogger Desiderius1979 said...

Not sure if this is a tip or a complaint, but folks, please, if you have a lawn, keep it natural!

Stop trying to grow non-native plant species (including grass) and having to pour fertilizer to help them survive an environment they don't belong in, while killing off native species with gallons of pesticides/herbicides. All these poisons seep into your drinking water.

Also, stop over-watering your lawns, especially during summer heat waves.

1:08 PM  
Blogger Desiderius1979 said...

UPDATE:

friendsofscience.org is just one organization that claims global warming is a myth. Their examples include the fact that 1000 years ago, Vikings used to farm on land that is frozen today (in Greenland and Iceland). Also, although some polar regions are warming up, (e.g.western Arctic and Palmer peninsula in Antarctica), others are cooling (e.g. eastern Arctic and the main part of the Antarctic continent). Furthermore, the aformentioned regional warming they believe is caused by unrelated cyclic events and not greenhouse gases.

1:43 PM  
Blogger ds said...

No update huh? I know you learned something, and it's so weak that you can't admit that you were wrong.

3:05 PM  
Blogger Desiderius1979 said...

UPDATE: Although I try to present both sides to each argument, this one clearly only has one true side. Anyone who claims that global warming is not happening, and even if it is, human activities are not a major contributor to it...is an IDIOT! Out of the countless real scientific studies on this subject, there has only been one case where there seemed to be actual instrument-recorded evidence to suggest global warming is not actually occurring. The authors of this paper later revised their statement after it was shown that they mis-interpreted data collected by their instruments. There is unprecedented scientific consensus on this issue...global warming and our contribution to it, cannot be denied, I don't care how Bush-like your tiny brain might be!

9:55 AM  

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